News & Articles of Interest to Durham-Orange Genealogists
PO Box 4703, Chapel Hill , NC 27515-4703
2010 dues – $20
Richard Ellington – President
Election of Officers
Civil War Materials in Print and Online
Who Owns Geer Cemetery?
The White Pages Will Disappear
Apex Historical Society Workshop
Trading Path Association December First Sunday Hike
Websites of Possible Interest
Calendar of Events
The next general meeting of the Durham-Orange Genealogical Society (D-OGS) will be held on Wednesday evening, 1 December 2010 from 6:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. at the Golden Corral NC55, just south of the intersection of NC54 and NC55. Address: 5006 NC Highway 55, Durham, NC 27713, (919) 544-2275 – Map: http://tinyurl.com/6bk38j. I understand there is a Senior Discount.
This is not a regular meeting. There will be no speaker or fixed program. This is our annual “birthday party” for everyone to enjoy. Come and enjoy the fellowship of your fellow D-OGS members and their guests. Dress will be as formal or casual as you require.
Please RSVP if you are planning on attending to firstname.lastname@example.org. We need to give the restaurant an approximate count for seating purposes. When you arrive, pay for your meal and proceed to the right to their meeting/party room. This is a good time to bring your spouse so that you can introduce them to all those people that you have mentioned during the last year – yes, we plan on having name tags.
We will be holding our election of 2011 officers. We still do not have candidates for Vice-President or Secretary.
There will be no CIG meeting this month.
D-OGS Meeting Minutes for November 2010
November 3, 2010
The meeting was called to order at 7:06 PM. 19 members were in attendance and 1 visitor.
Ann Myhre said that our scheduled speaker, Josh Howard, was unable to attend due to a family emergency. She said she had come prepared with a program on the Norwegian research she had done on her husband’s family.
John’s family of Myhres had come from the Lillehammer area of Norway. She found the family farms on a map before 1000 A.D. She said that around 1350 the Black Plague had wiped out about half the population of Norway.
She had photos of old farms as well as maps and said that farms in a parish were numbered. She said early church records were the main records of Norway and showed us some pages with marriages, baptisms, and deaths and also said there were records of parishioners who had sinned and confessed in church.
When she and John and his brother and sister-in-law went to Norway they toured the country with another man from Norway and visited Lillehammer and the open air museum. She showed us photos of the old wooden churches, houses, farm and copies of old records that were the Norwegian equivalent of a census. The farms are small by American standards, being only 100 to 150 acres, and this is due to the mountainous nature of the terrain.
Norway’s policy for cemeteries is that when there is a death a responsible person pays for 25 years for upkeep of that grave and, when there is no longer anyone to pay, the stone goes to one side and someone else is buried on top of the previous body. Land is at a premium.
When Olaf and Lena Myhre were married in the United States they had to have a baptism certificate in order to get married. They had six children.
During World War II Norway was occupied by Germany from 1940 to 1945.
At the end of her very interesting presentation, Ann answered several questions from the audience.
The minutes of the October 6 meeting were approved as published in the newsletter.
- Website—Ginger was not at the meeting and she had not furnished a report.
- Membership—Peg reported that there had been no change since her last report.
- Newsletter Highlights—Richard mentioned three.
- Trading Path—Rob said the latest issue had been published on the website and, if any member is having difficulty in reading or printing it, to let him know. He said they plan on getting the next issue up the end of the year.
- Nominating Committee—This is the month we vote on the slate of officers for the following year, however, the slate is not full. At this point we have nominations for the following offices:
o President: Sue McMurray (she might be unable to serve due to health issues and will have a better idea in the next couple weeks)
o Vice President/Program Chair: vacant
o Secretary: vacant
o Treasurer: Ginny Thomas
o Director: Karen Vance
o Director: Fred Mowry
- Cathy Elias proposed tabling the elections another month. This proposal was seconded and it passed. Elections will be held at the December Birthday Party.
- Computer SIG—Carol said she’d been letting everyone know she wanted someone else to take over and no one else had offered so she said the SIG was going to take a break until the Chapel Hill Library has finished their renovations.
- Possible meeting locations were discussed as well as a suggestion of another night. Someone mentioned Bennett Place but no one knew what the fee might be.
- Richard suggested this was better left until the new board took over in January.
- Treasurer’s Report—As of October 1 our balance was $2362.81, with deposits of $260 and expenses of $85, culminating in a balance of $2537.81 for November 1.
The next meeting will be the Birthday Party on December 1 at the Golden Corral on NC55. The hours are 6 to 8 PM. We will have a private room so look for the group or ask an employee.
There being no further business to discuss, the meeting was adjourned at 8:55 PM.
Respectfully Submitted, Tonya Fouse Krout
We need your help – Officers Wanted
I will remind you again that we still need to have D-OGS members step up and accept the responsibility of leadership in our organization. It is December and we still have NO candidate willing to serve as D-OGS vice-president/program chair. This means that we may have meetings but we will not have any programs. We also have no candidate for Secretary so this means that we have no one to record the proceedings of our meetings. I see no other choice than for our incoming president to ask for volunteers or appoint someone at the meetings to fill in these positions. We will be holding elections for 2011 officers at the December meeting. Please consider helping your society be offering your services for these positions.
Civil War Materials in Print and Online
The New York Times’ Disunion series started online Opinion Section on October 30, 2010 with a piece entitled “Will Lincoln Prevail?” by Jamie Malanowski. Here’s how the NYT describes it: “The story of the Civil War will be told in this series as a weekly roundup and analysis, by Jamie Malanowski, of events making news during the corresponding week 150 years ago. Written as if in real time, this dispatch will, after this week, appear every Monday. Additional essays and observations by other contributors, along with maps, images, diaries and so forth, will be published several times a week.”
To catch up on blogs and essays, link to the Disunion archives: http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/category/disunion/
Disunion can also be followed on Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/pages/Civil-War-The-New-York-Times/171184126228555
The Washington Post appears to have started its “ongoing special coverage of the 150th anniversary of the American Civil War” back in October 2008! ”The Post commemorates the Civil War’s 150th anniversary with commentary from experts, sesquicentennial news and an updating event calendar. In April: A special report as shots are fired at Fort Sumter.”
Civil War 150 is the WaPo’s effort to bring “relevant coverage, historical and current of the American Civil War.” The main link is http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/artsandliving/civilwar/. A House Divided is “the blog about all things Civil War,” according to the Washington Post. Find it at http://voices.washingtonpost.com/house-divided/
To find past WaPo articles under the banner of Civil War 150 and A House Divided, check out the archives page at http://voices.washingtonpost.com/house-divided/archives.htm
And of course, Google Disunion, A House Divided and Civil War 150 will get you to any of these.
Both papers offer a rich array of opinion, graphics, suggesting readings, panels of “experts,” news about exhibits, re-enactments, etc. Plus, comments seem to be welcome.
This is probably the tip of the iceberg as more and more groups, publications, museums, etc all participate in commemorating the Civil War over the months and years ahead. For buffs, it’ll be Heaven.
I still do not know if and when either of these publications will charge for online subscriptions. At the moment, it is very free and more than worth the price of admission.
(Thanks to D-OGS member Nerissa Williams for the information in this article.)
Who Owns Geer Cemetery
BY JIM WISE, Staff writer for the News & Observer; reprinted with permission
At one corner of the an old graveyard in the Duke Park section of town, now stands a handsome stone monument proclaiming “Geer Cemetery 1877 1944″ to traffic passing by on Colonial Street and Camden Avenue.
At the far corner of the old graveyard there leans an old, beat-up and rusted metal sign with the same information. It appears more in keeping with the forested property in between, currently shrouded by rank wisteria vines and a literal No Man’s Land.
In recent years, the Geer Cemetery has received more care and attention than it had in decades. Still, more than seven years after the Friends of Geer Cemetery organized to attend Durham’s oldest black burying ground, just who owns the 3.84-acre resting place of more than 1,500 people remains unknown.
What is known is that among the earthly remains there are those of Edian Markham, founder of St. Joseph’s AME Church; Margaret Faucette, founder of White Rock Baptist Church; Augustus Shepard, White Rock pastor and father of N.C. Central University founder James Shepard; and others, some marked, some indicated only by depressions in the ground.
What is also known is that, on March 28, 1877, Jesse and Polly Geer – who owned and farmed much of the land later developed into Duke Park – sold two acres to Willis Moore, John Daniel and Nelson Mitchell.
The deed, recorded in Orange County (Durham County was not created until 1881) book 45, page 89, goes on to say: “The above tract of land is to be used as a cemetery for the colored people,” and identifies Moore, Daniel and Mitchell as “president,” “secretary” and “assistant secretary” respectively – but does not state of what organization. Durham County tax records list the tract as “Unknown Owner.”
“Where do we go from that?” said April Johnson of Preservation Durham.
Durham historian David Southern has speculated that Moore, Daniel and Mitchell were officers of a fraternal order such as the Masons or the Grand United Order of Odd Fellows. There is a documentary reference to the property as “Mason Cemetery” and one gravestone is inscribed with “In Memory of Our Brotherhood G.U.O.O.F.”
But there is no record of Moore, Daniel and Mitchell appointing heirs or successors for the land.
A Durham Sun article of Jan. 15, 1900 reports that “the colored burying grounds … just beyond Mr. F.C. Geer’s, out on the Roxboro Road, is in rather bad shape,” with some wooden markers recently burned in a brushfire and others vandalized with “some very unbecoming words.” The newspaper, according to the article, had commented a year earlier that the cemetery needed attention “but nothing has been done, and in consequence it is rapidly going into ruin.”
The Sun did not, however, suggest who should undertake the restoration. A 1908 deed, conveying lot No. 73, 14 by 16 feet, to one Robert L. Pool, bears the names of seven “Trustees of the Colored Cemetery,” including W.G. Pearson – probably the black educator and businessman for whom W.G. Pearson Magnet Middle School is named. All the signatures are written in the same hand, and, again, there is no mention of a succession of ownership.
In a 1992 oral-history interview, then-75-year-old Willis Carpenter described the cemetery as having been “a nice place” in the 1920s, with an archway gate and enclosing fence. “Folks would drive buggies out there and work on the graveyard,” he said, but, “When the old people died off, it started to go down.”
Burials continued there into the 1940s, until the cemetery was closed by the county health department. Since then, the cemetery has been overgrown and cleared and overgrown and cleared multiple times, but just whose land is getting alternately neglected and attended remains unknown despite sporadic attempts to find out.
“We have a committee trying to determine who owns that property,” said R. Kelly Bryant Jr., who canvassed the Geer cemetery for a preservation society project in the mid-1980s. Bryant, along with Jessie Eustace, who lives near the cemetery, and others formed the Friends group in 2003, in the hope of establishing title.
That endeavor, Eustace said, has gone “not so well yet.”
Johnson said a student clinic at the N.C. Central University Law School has been enlisted to “research and get down to who really owns the property,” the title, but their work only started in October.
In the meantime, the city has taken on some maintenance, said Kevin Lilley of the urban forestry division. City crews are removing weeds and vines, especially poison ivy, and picking up litter; but Cub Scouts, Boy Scouts, a private-school group and garden-club members have been enlisted to help with landscaping.
And there is the new monument. The Friends had talked for years about getting a sign more dignified than the old metal marker that, at one point, fell down and was covered by undergrowth. Durham Marbleworks donated the stone, Triangle Brick the bricks and Nathaniel McLaughlin and William Turner volunteered their labor, Eustace said.
And so it rests, still.
White Pages Will Disappear
(The following article is from Eastman’s Online Genealogy Newsletter and is copyright by Richard W. Eastman. It is re-published here with the permission of the author. Information about the newsletter is available at http://www.eogn.com.)
We are witnessing still another change in our world that is caused by technology. The local telephone company’s white pages will probably disappear soon.
In fact, the white pages already disappeared in Indiana a couple of years ago. Verizon has secured permission from New York, Pennsylvania, and Florida to stop mass distribution as well, and it’s currently making the same case to Virginia regulators. Most companies are expected to soon follow the same path: petition the lawmakers to make telephone books optional. (I didn’t know they needed permission!)
According to Verizon, people have shifted their phone lookups to the Internet. Besides, “the annual printing and distribution of such directories imposes environmental costs in terms of tons of paper used and energy consumed in printing, binding, and distributing the directories.” It also costs money to print, and unlike the yellow pages, residents don’t pay for inclusion in the white pages.
Instead, Verizon would keep its listings online for no charge and would deliver white pages to any household that requests them. Yellow pages and their included government directories will continue to be printed.
Does anyone care about white pages anymore? I find the phone books to be less and less useful. Most of my friends and relatives have moved to unlisted numbers to escape telemarketers or to cell phones and a few of them even use computer VoIP phones. None of these are listed in the white pages. When I need a telephone number, I look online first.
I admit I haven’t used the white pages or the yellow pages in years. The last time we received new telephone books, I stuffed them in a drawer, and I don’t think they have been touched since.
It strikes me that these books are just a waste of trees. I suppose they do need to keep printing a few phone books for the 23 percent of all US households where no one in the home uses the Internet; but, the other 77 percent of us don’t need printed directories. What’s more, that 23 percent continues to drop every year.
Another effort underway to stop the home delivery of local yellow pages may be found at http://www.yellowpagesgoesgreen.org/
Of course, it may be a problem for future genealogists who will have to deal with no city directories, no phone books, and minimal census data.
I might keep and use the white pages if they were delivered to me as a PDF file. Then again, if it is online it is probably more current. We might just say, “It’s a wired, wired world.”
Apex Historical Society Workshop
Tuesday, November 30, 2010 – 7:00 p.m. (doors open at 6:30 p.m.)
Halle Cultural Arts Center, 237 North Salem Street, Apex, North Carolina
FREE (limited seating)
Warren Lee Holleman and C. P. “Toby” Holleman make one of two planned presentations as part of the Apex Historical Society and Halle Cultural Arts Center Speaker’s Series on the History of Apex. The second presentation of this series will be made January 25, 2011.
Description of book:
“Pluck, Perseverance and Paint – Apex, North Carolina: Beginnings to 1941,” first published in 1973, at the time of Apex’s Centennial Celebration, has been revised and expanded to five times its original length. The new book is 340 pages in length and features 160 photographs, maps, and illustrations. The book’s title is drawn from Apex’s first motto, describing the virtues of her early citizens and the tools required to turn a swampy “Log Pond” into a bustling community.
“Pluck, Perseverance and Paint” covers not only early Apex, but all of western Wake County prior to World War II. The new edition presents both written and oral histories of the Apex area on such topics as slavery, the Civil War, Reconstruction, the Roaring Twenties, and the Great Depression. While learning about the history of Apex, readers will also learn about the history of central North Carolina, the South, and the entire United States during this formative period of our nation’s history. And because the book is written with both intelligence and wit, the reader will be entertained as well.
Trading Path Association December First Sunday Hike
On December 5th we will revisit our 2009-2010 triumph, the most likely site of “Few’s Tavern”. William Few owned a tavern and his brother owned a nearby mill and both were located adjacent to, arguably, the best ford over the Eno River at the confluence of Buckquarter Creek northeast of Hillsborough, NC.
Few’s Tavern, as many of you will already know, played a role not altogether understood in activities leading up to the War of the Regulation, perhaps something similar to Maddock’s Mill on the other side of Hillsborough, a place where Regulators met to work out their complaints about local government. Both Maddock and Few were driven out of Orange County at the end of the Regulation and Few had his home property, a farmstead closer to Hillsborough, destroyed at Governor Tryon’s direction by colonial militiamen who camped there and used his fences for firewood. We are still trying to understand the relationships of all these parties and why the heavy hand of government fell on some and not others.
The net effect of the War of the Regulation in Orange County was the nearly complete removal of Quakers from the Hillsborough area. Among these Friends and friends of friends were some the future president, Jimmy Carter’s antecedents.
This is a wonderful site and we take great pride in having found it. We believe that, in time, it will alter completely our understanding of the War of the Regulation in Old Orange County.
The site is inside Eno River State Park off of Pleasant Green Road and the park is dog friendly so bring your bodyguard on a leash.
Michael Ouchakof, 2207 Chapel Hill Rd., Durham, NC 27707-1407 – 919-279-8990 – email@example.com
We are seeking information on John W Proctor of Durham County between the years 1882-1914. Our research indicates that he was a teacher in Durham and his father, John S Proctor, was a farmer in Durham. We currently live in the house on Chapel Hill Road that is listed in the Register of Deeds as being sold to Nannie Maud Proctor (daughter) in 1914, although the City of Durham tends to believe that the house was not built until 1940. Any information would be appreciated as we are struggling to learn the history of our home and its property.
Wendy Randall, 2552 Jessica Lynn Court, Franklinton, NC 27525 – 919-749-9686 – firstname.lastname@example.org
Surnames: Cary, Carey
Looking for Jordan Cary/Carey origins. There is a Benjamin and Ester O’Dear Cary listed in the early 1800 marriage bonds. Does anyone know anything about this family?
Katherine Carr, 4 Walnut Park Ct., Saint Peters, MO 63376-2949 – 314-780-4318 – email@example.com
I am seeking parent and ancestor info for William Hall, b. 01-Mar-1806 in Orange Co, NC, m. Pheby ? (born ca. 1806) ca. 1827, d. 1893 (IN). Children Mary, Matilda & William Jr., were born in NC. Family moved from Orange Co. NC to Orange Co. IN between 1836 and 1840. Pheby died in IN ca. 1850-1853, and William Hall remarried in IN (Ruth Hunt) in 1853. Seeking any information about William Hall or Pheby.
[Medieval] referring to the Frankish dynasty of European rulers beginning with Pepin III (d.768) and ending with Louis IV Outrmer (d.954). Most notable in this dynasty was Charlemagne (d.814) who ended up ruling most of Europe. The Carolingians succeeded the Merovingians.
A late medieval order of clergy with an emphasis on learning, contemplation and solitude
A copy, often in abbreviated form by the monks of a monastery of those documents that granted property to the institution. A cartulary is usually the closest that can be gotten to the monastic charters, which, in England, usually did not survive the Reformation.
[Latin carucata plough] a measure of land which was could be tilled with a team of eight oxen in one year, equivalent to a hide. Also know as a ploughgate, equaled 8 oxgangs or bovates. A uniform (clerks) carucuate appeared to be around 104 acres, but it could range from 60 to 120 acres.
CASCADING PEDIGREE CHART
A series of pedigree charts that span multiple generations for an individual and then for each person in the last generation of the first chart.
Periodic official tally of the population with details as to ages, sexes, occupation, etc. U.S. Federal censuses have been taken every 10 years starting in 1790
Alphabetical listing of names enumerated in a census
Websites of Possible Interest
The site also launched a professional poster-printing service for any chart produced on the website, as well as a chart design service.
If you have your family tree information on MyHeritage, you can click on the Family Tree tab on your family site, then select Charts and Books. Choose from 18 chart types, including new and hourglass designs. The MyHeritage version of the hourglass format is unique in that it can include the ancestors of any spouse.
You also can customize your chart with border designs, frames, backgrounds, decorations, colors and fonts. You can opt to include information such as names, birth dates, wedding anniversaries, photos and personal notes.
This is an example of a bowtie chart, with a nuclear family in the center and each parent’s ancestors on the sides.
You can export your chart for free in high-resolution PDF format to print or share via e-mail.
You also can order a professionally printed poster starting at $20. A variety of paper types (standard, matte photo, glossy photo, vinyl or canvas) and sizes (including huge wall charts for family reunions) are available, with optional lamination.
MyHeritage provides free hosting for family websites up to 250MB and trees up to 250 people, with more storage and features for $6.25 to $9.95 per month. You can start a MyHeritage tree by uploading a GEDCOM or typing in names.
Calendar of Events
State capitol – “Crisis at the Capitol: NC on the Eve of War” exhibit - For North Carolina, the Civil War began in the State Capitol. On May 20, 1861, delegates from across the state adopted the Ordinance of Secession in the House of Commons, officially withdrawing the state from the Union. This event followed months of tense debate between Unionists and Secessionists, slavery advocates and abolitionists. “Crisis at the Capitol” explores what the State Capitol was like on the eve of the conflict and introduces visitors to many of the individuals working and living here in a time before secession and before the war.
Duke Homestead State Historic Site – Celebrate an 1870 Christmas during evening tours of the Homestead. The tour features period decorations, caroling, hot apple cider, and other goodies! December 3from 7:00 to 9:00pm
Historic Stagville State Historic Site – Saturday December 4th 2010, “Christmas in the Big House, Christmas in the Quarters”
Visit the site from 10:00-4:00 for an open house. See the Bennehan house decorated for the holidays, listen to music, and finish your Christmas shopping with local vendors from all over North Carolina with everything from pottery to jewelry.
Christmas in the Quarters: At night the site will begin lantern tours at 5:30. The tours will last about 30 minutes and will allow visitors to step into the antebellum period and see how enslaved people celebrated the holidays. For more details contact the site at 919-620-0120
Holiday Events at the Orange County Main Library in HILLSBOROUGH, NC – Get into the holiday spirit at the Orange County Main Library! Stop by the library anytime to see the hand-made decorations, compliments of the Teens’ group and the Friends of the Library.
Holiday programs begin on Tuesday, December 7th at 3:30 p.m. when Carolina Navigators present “Sinterklaas: Santa Claus in the Netherlands” for 6-11 year olds. Kids should bring a shoe to fully experience this multicultural holiday presentation.
On Wednesday, December 8th at 6:00 p.m., Bright Star Touring Theatre performs “A Dickens Tale.” The entire family is invited to join Scrooge and Bob Cratchit in this production based on the Charles Dickens classic, A Christmas Carol.
More information about these holiday festivities and other library events are available by calling the library at (919) 245-2532, as well as on the Orange County library website events calendar at http://web.co.orange.nc.us/LibraryEvents/index.aspx.
Duke Homestead State Historic Site – Celebrate an 1870 Christmas during evening tours of the Homestead. The tour features period decorations, caroling, hot apple cider, and other goodies! December 10from 7:00 to 9:00pm
Bennett Place State Historic Site – Join us as we celebrate the Christmas holidays during the time of the American Civil War. The Bennett House and farm will be decorated modestly as they would have been done in Piedmont North Carolina during the 1860′s. Civilians and Southern soldiers will bring the farm to life with a variety of activities to include the traditional roasting of the Hog’s Head. December 11 and 12 from 10:00 to 3:00pm
WCGS December Meeting – Our meeting on December 7 happens to fall on the anniversary of the attack on Pearl Harbor, and Si Harrington, Military Collections Archivist at the North Carolina State Archives has graciously agreed to be our speaker that evening. We are excited to have Si join us as we commemorate the anniversary.
Date: Tuesday, December 7, 2010
Time: 7:00 p.m.
Place: Olivia Raney Local History Library, 4016 Carya Drive, Raleigh
Speaker: Si Harrington, Military Collection Archivist at the North Carolina State Archives
Guests are welcome — bring a friend! www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ncwcgs/
Alamance County Genealogical Society – ACGS regular monthly meetings begin again on 13 December, 2010 at 7:00 p.m., at the Western Steak House, 142 N. Graham-Hopedale Road Burlington, NC 27215 – 336-227-1448. The program is the annual Christmas Bazaar
Holiday Event at the Orange County Main Library in HILLSBOROUGH, NC – Children of all ages are invited to Max Preston’s holiday puppet show, “Oh no, Rudolph is sick” on Wednesday, December 15th at 10:30 a.m.
NGS National Conference – May 11-14, 2011, South Carolina, Charleston, National Genealogical Society. For more information, visit http://www.ngsgenealogy.org/cs/conference_info
My Job History
- My first job was working in an orange juice factory, but I got canned – couldn’t concentrate.
- Then I worked in the woods as a lumberjack, but I just couldn’t hack it, so they gave me the ax.
- After that I tried to be a tailor, but I just wasn’t suited for it, mainly because it was a so-so job.
- Next I tried working in a muffler factory but that was too exhausting.
- I attempted to be a deli worker, but any way I sliced it, I couldn’t cut the mustard.
- My best job was being a musician, but eventually I found I wasn’t noteworthy.
- I studied a long time to become a doctor, but I didn’t have any patience.
- I became a professional fisherman, but discovered that I couldn’t live on my net income.
- I managed to get a good job working for a pool maintenance company, but the work way just too draining.
- I got a job at a zoo feeding giraffes, but I was fired because I wasn’t up to it.
- After many years of trying to find steady work, I finally got a job as a historian until I realized there was no future in it.
- My last job was working at Starbucks, but I had to quit because it was always the same old grind.
- So, then I retired … and found out I was perfect for the job!
Hold fast to dreams for if dreams die, life is like a broken-winged bird that cannot fly.
- Chinese fortune cookie
If you have any items of interest that you would like to submit for future publication, please contact Richard Ellington at mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org or 919.967.4168