Comments for Durham-Orange Genealogical Society

Comment on Query: Camp by sdunaway

sdunaway — Tue, 14 May 2013 20:04:32 +0000

Another follow up – searching deed records in Orange Co. Deed Office – there are NO deeds for THOMAS. However, like before, there are deeds for John Camp selling land 9/27/1765 and 4/29/1772. This land was in northern part of Orange Co. on the Flat River.

Comment on Somebody Knows My Name: Marriages of Freed People in North Carolina, By County by Ginger Smith

Ginger Smith — Mon, 13 May 2013 21:40:50 +0000

Linda, you can email Dr. White at wrendancer at aol dot com or just google her name to contact her directly and place an order.
Thank you,
Ginger

Comment on Somebody Knows My Name: Marriages of Freed People in North Carolina, By County by Linda

Linda — Mon, 13 May 2013 19:11:35 +0000

Is this CD still available?

Comment on Query: Camp by sdunaway

sdunaway — Mon, 13 May 2013 12:29:36 +0000

Sorry I couldnt find a THOMAS Camp, I thought it would be worth the effort to inform about EDWARD and JOHN Camp – in case they are relatives. Early Orange Co. deed records were destroyed during the Revolution. The books were buried in the ground, and were damaged or soiled. At the NC State Archives is a microfilm of the early Orange deeds via the Court Approval process. Although this will not provide metes/bounds (Survey) it does list dates and transactions (Grantee and Grantor). The list has Edward buying a Granville Grant (236a) in Orange Co. Aug 13, 1765. Also a Granville Grant (200a) May 13, 1766 for John Camp.

Searching the court minutes for Mill petitions (required by law) there are NO Camp names listed.

In my work at NCSA the Tryon Co. records are very rare – but Mecklenburg would be the county to look for any info – OR Rowan County court records – a very old district (although Anson is the original county but these old records are very rare).

I ASSUME you know he is here via a petition in the State Records for Orange Co. – listing his name (Tho Camp) in a list of other “Orange Co.” residents asking Royal Gov. Martin to divide the county (Orange) into smaller pieces. Martin replaced Tryon after the war in June 1771. Josiah Martin listened to the complaints of the people – and found them VALID – highlighting that Tryon wasnt very honest or sympathetic to the people. Book Vol 9 pg 89-90 has a list of people – the preamble states “he Humble Petition of the inhabitance of the north part of Orange County…” note “north part”.

There is a great book on Loyalist in the Southern Department – if he SERVED against the Patriot cause he would be listed there.
I have transcribed ALL of the State confiscation records – there is NO Camp listed anywhere in the State.
This location (Tyron Co.) was certainly remote – usually showing isolation from current events….and the Meck.Co. people in the 1750/60 early era were a tough bunch. VERY mixed over the war (tory/patriot).
Stewart

Comment on Query: Geddes/Gattis/Gaddus by Martha Fontenot

Martha Fontenot — Sun, 14 Apr 2013 20:59:53 +0000

Thank you so much. I received the same information at my DAR meeting yesterday. Now, how do I prove that the John Gattis who had jury duty was the John Gattis who was the father of Alexander, the Revolutionary War Patriot, and Isaac Gattis, who moved to Lincoln County, TN. Isaac is the ancestor of my PM. Also, I read that when the new state government was set up in North Carolina in the mid 1770′s that all men there were required to pledge an oath of allegiance or they had to leave. John Gattis did not pass away until about 1810, so he could have been the juror. His original land grant was given by the British. But he paid taxes on it after NC became a state.

Comment on Query: Geddes/Gattis/Gaddus by sdunaway

sdunaway — Fri, 05 Apr 2013 18:39:17 +0000

It was my understanding that the DAR would accept the State Land Grant as proof of “patriot” cause. When you said “received a land grant” was that a State Land grant? ALSO being a “juror” in 1777 meant the “legal system” recognized you as a citizen of the State, therefor you are a “patriot”. Oath of allegiances were not that thorough – and some people never took it. They would be at the NC State Archives, or some appear in the court minutes. Again, the DAR/SAR (at least the SAR) would accept a State Land Grant, or court duty, even a deed transaction, during the war, as proof of “patriot cause”.

Comment on Query: Scarlett, Lockhart, Holloway by Ginger Smith

Ginger Smith — Thu, 04 Apr 2013 12:57:48 +0000

From Frances Farmer Alexander (talexan509@aol.com):

I have traced my husband’s paternal family Cole line back to John Anderson Cole and Cynthia G. Warren Cole. ( William D. Cole, Edward Lee Cole, Sr. ) His other line is Walker. His maternal lines are Kallam, McAnally, and Doss from the Winston-Salem area. I can fill you in on recent generations, but only know about others from what I have gathered online. I would love to fill in some blanks with a higher level of confidence and would be happy to share.

Thanks for all your work. Is your book for sale, available online, etc.?
Frances Farmer Alexander

Comment on Query: Page by lthompson

lthompson — Wed, 27 Mar 2013 18:22:50 +0000

Loretta,

You might try the Durham County Library and their WW2 Scrapbook. Howard S. Page is mentioned twice. (Vol 1, page 41; Vol 6 page 43). This is a collection of newspaper clippings from the area and during WW2. I was lucky enough to find a lot of my Father’s brothers and sister and cousins in this collection. Contact the Lynn Richardson at the library in charge of the North Carolina collection and get copies of these two entries. Her email is lrichard@dconc.gov

Good luck,

Linda Thompson

Comment on Query: McClure by Stewart

Stewart — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 13:00:38 +0000

The Warrant of 1756 doesnt appear as a Grant, since I could not find any Granville Grant issued. The South Buffalo is on the western edge of OLD Orange Co. which is a strip of Guilford Co. today. When looking for Granville grants, I found Richard McClure as SURVEYOR in Tyrrell Co., for the Granville District ca 1748/9. Is it possible that Thomas being a C.C.C. may have originated from a relative being a survyeor? If so, then maybe Richard is related. Again, the 1752 boundary of Old Orange (western boundary) was with Rowan, which ran from Virginia all the way down through today’s Randolph Co. Therefore, when boundaries changed (1770) McClure could be in Guilford Co.

Comment on Query: Long by Stewart

Stewart — Mon, 18 Feb 2013 21:33:56 +0000

Oh – for the record, The Battle of Alamance occured as a colony, May 1771. The regulators were citizens of the colony. The State Militia, under the Governor (Tryon) was the other side of the event. All Royal Governors had the power to invoke a State Militia. Therefore, Tryon was executing normal – due process.
The State Militia was made up of citizens. There were NO British Army, there were NO British Red Coats involved. Therefore, the REAL definition of the Battle of Alamance was “citizen against citizen” or a civil war.
As Past NCSSAR State Historian, I can tell you this battle is a controversial one, in relation to the American Revolution. Therefore I continued to hold the view, let ALL events be valid AFTER July 4, 1776.
Yet, here in North Carolina, the Battle at Moores Creek occured Feb 1776, pre independence. So there was a move to use the year 1775 as the line in the sand, so to speak.
Bottom line – 1771 is British Rule, Colonists, with a divided viewpoint over some local issues.
Stewart